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as senate republicans back in washington threatened to derail and deny his nomination of chuck hagel. we're looking live at the senate where moments from now they're going to take a vote that's likely to delay the confirmation of a much-needed secretary of defense for this country, a country, by the way, that's still at war, and we'll bring you that live. but first, we take you on an exclusive tour of wayne lapierre's new york. that's right. this is how the nra's chief executive describes the city of new york today in an opinion piece published on the daily caller beb site. after hurricane sandy, he writes, we saw the hellish world that the gun prohibitionists see as their utopia. looters ran wild in south brooklyn, and if you wanted to walk several miles to get supplies, you better get back before dark or you might not get home at all. yes. while nobody in this city recognizes that bogus, racist, and entirely mythical description of new york during the hurricane, mr. lapierre says ordinary americans are now at the mercy of everything from marauding latino gangs to urban thugs and drug d
hagel's path to confirmation has just got a lot more complicated and a lot more difficult. for the first time in history, a nominee to be secretary of defense is forced to clear a 60-vote threshold in the senate to win con confirmation, and ths only the third time in history that any presidential candidate nominee to any post has been forced to win a cloture vote. >> it's the first time in the history of our country that a presidential nominee or secretary of defense has been filibusterde. what a shame. that's the way it is. i ask the concept that under rule 22, the corum be waved, and i asked the cloture vote and ask to honor the rule that the vote occurs friday. lou: hagel, until today, seemed assured of nomination having the support of the entire democratic senate caucus and two republican senators, and then he lost a critical vote this afternoon. republican senator, susan collins of maine decided she could not vote for him. collins, a long serving republican moderate said, quote, i'm unable to support the senator to be the next secretary of defense because i do not believe his positi
. >> this is a story that we have followed ever since comments and remarks were made against chuck hagel. new developments over the confirmation fight. first the secretary of defense potentially senator hagel. republicans delayed that confirmation with the historic filibuster but there is new details about a controversial speech that he spoycedly made that could throw a kink in the process. i am eric shaun. >> it is brand new. we are following a lot of storyings, i am jamie colby. critizing the jewish lobby and. senator hagag's comments have reverb rated and he is once bashed the state department for the relationship with israel in a speech a few years ago and comments he said he didn't remember and disavows. what is the latest, >> senator lindsay graham has new concerns about church hagel. the former senator is considered as defense secretary and his vote faced a filler . nomination of john brennan is hanging in the balance. senator graham is concerned that hagel might think the israelis have too much influence in washington. >> allege wouldly senator hagel said that the u.s. state departmen
concerns about church hagel. the former senator is considered as defense secretary and his vote faced a filler . nomination of john brennan is hanging in the balance. senator graham is concerned that hagel might think that the israelis have too much influence in washington. >> allege wouldly senator hagel said that the u.s. state department was adjunct of the israeli foreign minister's office which would be breath taking if he said that to have a view. i got a letter back from senator hagel in did you say that or believe that. high said he didn't recall that and disavowings. he also concerns about bengazi . even though hagel was not in time graham demanding answers. the white house said congress has plenty of answers from them about bengazi. >> you know, just the other day, our counselsent a letter to capitol hill on the latest on bengazi. that is it 10,000 pages of documents we have provided. >> the president himself said a lot of the questions of bengazi were driven by congress and they're running out of questions to ask. stiantor john mccain said hagel is not qualified but the sena
's talk about chuck hagel's confirmation. i'm sure you saw it. it was great television. a lot of fireworks between hagel and john mccain. take a look. >> we are correct or incorrect. yes or no? >> my reference to the refer -- >> the question is were you right or wrong. that's a pretty straight forward question. i would like to answer and then you are free to elaborate. >> i am not going to give you a yes or no answer. >> joe, first of all, let me ask you this. the white house didn't jump to his defense after that stuff. why not? >> who didn't? >> the white house. the white house didn't jump to his defense. >> the white house has a sense that he has a good chance to be confirmed and everybody know that is the hearings will be contentious. no doubt there will be a lot of consengz and a lot of bad blood between this senator and colleagues and many who question his stance with regard to iran and how strong he would be and also with regard to israel. expect contention. that doesn't mean he won't be confirmed. i don't think the white house will jump to his defense. >> again, white house didn't j
to do with them, including a stunningly bad performance by chuck hagel in his senate confirmation hearing today. just listen to what he said about iran. >> we have never ever designated a part of a legitimate government, a state. when i say legitimate, it doesn't mean that we agree with iran, but it is a member of the united nations. almost all of our allies have embassies in iran. so that's why i note an elected legitimate government, whether we agree or not. >> chuck hagel, frequent guest on this show, while he was the u.s. senator. but i've got to disagree. legitimate and elected government? is he kidding me? there were millions of people protesting on the street and we should have helped the green movement stop that election because it was all a fraud. anyway, i think he's nuts on that point. and unfortunately, chuck hagel said a lot of other goofy stuff, too. so we're going to have to get to that soon coming right up. >>> next up, however, how many people are moving out of high-tech states to low-tech states? that's an easy one. should be 100%. the answer is a lot. robert fra
-span. >> coming up tonight, the senate approved chuck hagel to be that next defense secretary. after that, republican leaders spoke of the upcoming budget cuts, known as a sequestration. president obama is in newport news, virginia and talks about the effects of sequestration would have on them middle-class. -- on the middle class. the senate voted to confirm senator chuck hagel as the next defense secretary. the final vote was 58-41 with four republicans joining 52 democrats and two independents in voting aye. next, the 25 minute debate on the senate floor. >> it is now time for us to vote up or down on the nomination for many reasons. the nomination has been before us now inadequate time to get the information which our colleagues have asked for. there is also the looming fact of sequestration. we need to have a secretary of defense who is not only in office, but whose leadership is not in limbo, but is there. our troops need it. their families needed. our country needs it. we have 66,000 military arsenal in harms way in afghanistan. the president of afghanistan has directed the united
of defense in the meeting of world leaders. chuck hagel was supposed to be there and we'll let you know how the congressional haggling is playing out on the world stage. you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. [ female announcer ] total effects user kim scott still looks amazing. but with kids growing up fast, fighting seven signs of aging gets harder. introducing total effects moisturizer plus serum. for the ninety-two practices, two proms, and one driving test yet to come. she'll need our most concentrated total effects ever. a body at rest tends to stay at rest... while a body in motion tends to stay in motion. staying active can actually ease arthritis symptoms. but if you have arthritis, staying active can be difficult. prescription celebrex can help relieve arthritis pain so your body can stay in motion. because just one 200mg celebrex a day can provide 24 hour relief for many with arthritis pain and inflammation. plus, in clinical studies, celebrex is proven to improve daily physical function so moving is easier. celebrex can be taken with or without food. and it's not a narco
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be a threat? also in a few minutes u.s. senate expected to vote on chuck hagel president obama's controversial nominee for defense secretary. we'll bring to it live. more on what's going on in egypt right now. a holt air balloon carrying lots of tourists explodes and plummets to the ground. we're finding out how this could happen. we're going live to egypt. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> we begin with the huge winter storm, the national weather service is now calling historic. cities like amarillo, texas, wichita, kansas have broken snowfall records. 45 million in 21 states are being affected one way or another. the storm is blamed for at least three deaths. look at this. it's even dangerous after the storm blows away. in kansas city, the heavy wet snow is causing roofs to collapse. nobody was hurt in this building. but the snow is also bringing down tree limbs on to power lines. in kansas city thousands of people are reported without power. george, what's going on? >> reporter: this is par for the course here in the midwest. this is the second time in a week that this r
against illegal guns joe cerencione will come in and talk about the latest in syria but can chuck hagel survive a less than stellar performance last week in front of the senate foreign relations committee and job numbers came out. thanks to richard fouling for filling in, in friday. i was in boston giving a speech to the massachusetts bankers' association. so job numbers came out, and former labor secretary, hilda solis still in town is going to come in and talk job numbers with us as well. a lot to cover, but first: >> this is the full court press. >> some other headlines making news, still another win for "argo" been affleck taking home top honor for director's guild for the iran hostage drama showing how big a snub he got for not getting nominated for an oscar of best director. the academy awards coming up in three weeks. >> bill: i am more and more convinced "argo" will win best picture? >> looking that way. sad news from the bush household. former president george w. bush's dog, barneyey passed away, the little black scottish tear year. 12 years ol
speech last night, members of congress were locked in a bitter fight over the nomination of chuck hagel as the next secretary of defense. in a sharply divided 14-11 vote, the armed services committee sent hagel's nomination to the senate floor but only after hours of intense debate. >> we saw, with his nomination, something truly extraordinary, which is the government of iran formally and publicly praising the nomination of a defense secretary. i would suggest to you that to my knowledge, that is unprecedented to see a foreign nation like iran publicly celebrating a nomination. >> i want to put on the record that this senator feels like that senator cruz has gone over the line. he basically has impugned the patriotism of the nominee in your conclusions, which you are entitled to come to, about him, in essence, about being cozy with iran. >> my friend, senator nelson, i wrote down the words, criticizing our senator there for implying that chuck hagel was cozy with terrorist-type countries, referring to iran. i'd say he's endorsed by them. you can't get any doze zier than that. >> i've go
. and that is what we will be voting on now. later on, there will be a vote on whether to confirm senator hagel. the vote now is whether to bring this debate to an end. i hope we will so we can get on to the nomination vote. i yield the floor. i think it's noon and time for a vote. the presiding officer: the senator's time has expired. the senator from oklahoma has 30 seconds remaining. the senator from oklahoma. mr. inhofe: let me say that we -- everything has been said, not everyone has said it. however, i would like to make sure that everyone understands that the actual statements that were made by the former senator hagel in terms of the relationship of our country with israel and iran prior to the time that he was nominated, because many of those statements were changed at that time. i encourage the no vote on cloture. the presiding officer: the time is expired. under the previous order, the clerk will report the motion to invoke cloture. the clerk: cloture motion, we the undersigned senators in accordance with the provisions of rule 22 of the standing rules of the senate hereby move to br
hagel as the next secretary of defense, ending weeks of delay. his nomination bitterly split the senate with republican lawmakers say in their former colleague was too critical of israel and to compromising on iran. the world's major powers have offered the world some relief from crippled -- crippling economic sanctions. if it scales back on its nuclear program, tonight, talks in context don over to ron have not helped in that endeavor. stressed diplomacy can still resolve this nuclear standoff. can it? dennis is with us. really takings place because the alternative is worse? think there is an advantage to having diplomacy solved it, if in fact, it can solve it. resolutions byle the iaea, asking them -- not asking, but mandating that they stop. they are not stopping. and the world has put a lot of pressure on the iranians, clearly, through increasing the economic pressures that do have an impact there, but they have not had an effect on iran's behavior on its nuclear program yet. is there a diplomatic way out? oneapproach on the 5 plus was to say, we are prepared to offer you a diplomat
a minute. tomorrow, the senate will be in doing a test vote on chuck hagel's nomination for defense secretary. it is a culture wrote -- it is a cloture vote. of congressional hearings going on today. a couple of them are live on c- span 3 or [inaudible]. if you go there you will be able to see all of the hearings. thank you for being with us on the "washington journal." the speaker pro tempore: the house will be in order. the chair lays before the house a communication from the speaker. the clerk: the speaker's room, washington, d.c., february 14, 2013. i hereby appoint the honorable chris collins to act as speaker pro tempore on this day. signed, john a. boehner, speaker of the house of representatives. the speaker pro tempore: pursuant to the order of the house of january 3, 2013, the chair will now recognize members from lists submitted by the majority and minority leaders for morning hour debate. the chair will alternate recognition between the parties with each party limited to one hour and each member other than the majority and minority leaders and the minority whip limited t
could work this week on the chuck hagel nomination. the question remains whether or not republicans will block the nomination with a filibuster. the president traveling to push for slacker gun laws. with the nation focusing on the super bowl, we want to turn to washington's role on regulating the nfl. we will use super bowl sunday to talk about government regulations when it comes to the issue of steroids or head injuries. the phone lines are open. let's begin with a look at some of the headlines courtesy of the museum. from "the san francisco chronicle" -- from "the baltimore sun" -- let's turn to the politics and policy behind the nfl. this is a story a few days ago from "the washington post." outlining a plan and a letter to the executive director of the players union. they agreed as part of a 2011 collective bargaining agreement that the players should be tested for hgh, but the two sides of that agreed. two seasons have been played without it. last weekend in new orleans, roger goodell was asked a number of questions including one on the issue of head injuries. here is more fro
. on their face i don't expect the senate to reject mr. brennan for cia chief, and despite mr. hagel's troubles in the confirmation hearing, i don't expect he will be blocked as a matter of substance or his performance in the hearings. but it is true that if a couple of senators decide to hold things up because they want more answers, it gives the administration a choice. it can either go to bat against the republicans and say they're being unreasonable, they're being political, they need to back down, or they could make a decision we just want to get this thing through, let's try to give them enough information to satisfy them and get it over with. jon: a mouthpiece for the administration in this situation said these are critical national security positions, and individual members -- meaning senators -- shouldn't play politics with their nominations. but isn't that what happens at every nomination, the senators trot out their list of wants, you know, information wise from the administration and use some leverage? >> yes, i mean -- well, jon, that's what advise and consent ultimately means. it
of the atlantic council, senator chuck hagel, our president and ceo fred kemp, it is our pleasure to welcome you this afternoon for this discussion on managing the crisis in mali. before introducing today's topic, permit me to say a word about the councils africa center for the benefit of the audience, those who are new to us were joining us for the first time via television or the internet. the africa center was established in september, 2009, with a mission to help transform u.s. and other healthy approaches to africa by emphasizing the building of strong geopolitical partnerships with african states and strengthening economic growth and prosperity on the continent. the center seeks to engage and inform with policymakers in the general public of the strategic importance of effort that. both globally and for american and european interest in particular. a subject which obviously -- a commitment you share by joining us today. of strategic importance. we do this for -- a robust media presence. we worked promote constructive us leadership and engagement in international affairs is done the central
risks for peace making. >> a want ask about chuck hagel. during his confirmation hearing, chuck hagel said this about iran. >> i support the president's strong position on containment, as i said. by the way, i have been handed a note that i misspoke and said i supported the president's position on containment. if i said that, i meant to say we don't have a position on containment. >> this got a lot of the tensions and chuck hagel was stumbling all over the place during his hearing. talk about the significance of the substance of what he said. >> because the debate and the conversation in washington has been hysterical, there has been the effort to eliminate options at a very early stage. this a strong effort to make the containment option, essentially a dirty word in washington, d.c. equating content with the acceptance of iran getting a nuclear weapon. signaling the u.s. at the end of the day will not try to prevent a nuclear weapon in iran, but try to find ways to live with it. while the obama administration's policy is not containment, i think it is important to point out that we s
president obama withdraw the nomination of chuck hagel to be the next defense secretary. 15 republican senators signed a letter arguing it would be, quote, unprecedented, unprecedented for a secretary of defense to take office without a broad base of bipartisan support. let's bring in dana bash. she's working this story for us. the critics of chuck hagel, and there are many, they are not giving up? >> they are not. and that's really what this is about. this is about hagel's harshest critics to say that they are not happy. it's a big deal. they are saying, mr. president, please withdraw it. if you look at these faces, they are the most conservative members of the senate so it isn't surprising that they would be this aggressive on what has really become a partisan issue and they know what that what has happened in this recess -- the senate is in recession -- is that some of their fellow republicans have come out and said, we will allow this to go forward. so they know it's not technically going to be possible for them to stop it but the votes, they thought maybe if there was a bombshell
-- sides and they are wrong. guest: that is one of the main selling points about chuck hagel. he is a pragmatist. one of the reasons the president nominated him was that i think he is reading the tenor of the electorate to say this is the kind of person that we want an office, that there is -- and a large proportion of the electorate it is ideal -- ideologically driven and we want more leaders to look at things objectively and with an open mind. i think that was one of the primary reasons why they are very enthusiastic about senator hagel's nomination. i think your point is well taken. host: editors of the new york times asked, it is clear hagel is in the mainstream. the usa today ads of this -- host: richmond virginia on the independent line. caller: i am wondering which american people they are talking about. my sentiments are that the colors before me -- their comments before me, the american people are wondering about what these politicians are basing their assumptions on as far as hagel is concerned. he used to be a parity decent sounding person -- decent sounding person. he
to members of the president obama nominated chuck hagel as defense secretary. cheney says hagel was picked so a republican could take the blame for any future cuts to defense spending. in afghanistan. marine general joseph dunford i the new man in charge of international forces in afghanistan. he replaces general john allen. who is nominated to lead nato forces in europe. allen was also exonerated in a pentagon investigation of questionable email exchanges with a florida woman. she was linked to the sex scandal that led to the resignation of c-i-a director david petraeus. dunford says the move is not about a change of command, its about continuity. >> a big day for boeing. the company is analyzing results of flight tests on it's 7-8- 7 planes. the test saturday was the first since the dreamliner was grounded three weeks ago due to battery fires. the 7-8-7 flew out of boeing field in seattle. spending two and a half hours in the air. the dreamliner is the first commercial plane to rely heavily on lithium-ion batteries. back in january -- a battery short-circuited and caught fire on a plane tha
returns tomorrow with the senate. chuck hagel is expected to be the next defense secretary. a boat could happen early as tuesday. and those automatic budget cuts -- budget cuts begin to kick in. on the sunday, often during, 24, we will begin with the topic of health care. specifically, medicaid. is it a good idea? we want to get your thoughts on all of this. 202 is the area code. 585-3881 for the republicans. 202-585-3880 is our democratic line. you can also join us at facebook or send us an e-mail. a couple of issues dealing with health care and the elderly. a cover story, "increased -- a crisis in plain sight." and this cover story from time magazine called, "why medical billsa re killing us." and from "the new york times," -- there is the story of one of a number of republican governors -- he said ohio would reverse this decision if the government failed to cover all the cost of the expansion. here are some details for ohio -- last year the supreme court ruling that they have the ability to tap in and out of the system. medicaid covers 2.2 million people in ohio. it is the single larg
, the senate proceed to executive session to consider the nomination of senator hagel to be secretary of defense under the previous order. further, that following the cloture vote on the hagel nomination, upon reconsideration the senate recess until 2:15 for the weekly caucus meetings. and finally, that if cloture is invoked, the time during recess, morning business and adjournment count postcloture on the hagel nomination. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. blumenthal: there will be reconsideration of the cloture vote on the hagel nomination at noon tomorrow. if there is no further business to come before the senate, i ask that it adjourn under the previous order. the presiding officer: the senate stands adjourned. senate stands adjourned. >> johnette sandstrom waits for roll call. congress has been away for presidents' day and a sikh a sikh is the issue of sequestration. what's ahead for lawmakers on that topic? >> this has been a lot about publicity and not about legislation so far. the cuts are supposed to go into effect on march 1st and we have no progress on any negot
's pick for the defense secretary. is it the end of the road for chuck hagel? chris wallace joins us next hour. [ male announcer ] how do you make america's favorite recipes? just begin with america's favorite soups. bring out chicken broccoli alfredo. or best-ever meatloaf. go to campbellskitchen.com for recipes, plus a valuable coupon. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. i need you. i feel so alone. but you're not alone. i knew you'd come. like i could stay away. you know i can't do this without you. you'll never have to. you're always there for me. shh! i'll get you a rental car. i could also use an umbrella. fall in love with progressive's claims service. >> good morning to you, eight o'clock on the dot now. sunday, february 17th. i'm anna kooiman in for alisyn camerota. the not moving fast enough. white house drafting its own version of an immigration bill. we'll have a live report from washington d.c. >> tucker: a shocking story. he's an admitted cop killer, why are these people rallying in support of him, him being christopher dorner. >> clayton: have you ever eaten yogurt
. lindsey graham has just said he will lock the nomination. >> i plan to vote against chuck hagel. anyone who has watched his testimony saw testimony that was weak and wobbly and can't feel great confidence in chuck hagel in the role as secretary of defense. when you look at his long history and statements he continueses to crack dict himself. >> do you believe he'll be conformed? >> we are looking for more information. we have suggested that a number of additional speech that is we want to read that he's given, sources of income we want to delve into, and we're still looking for that information. >> do you agree with critics who say it is unprecedented the kind of information you have been asking for, that no nominee previously has been asked to provide the depth and breadth of the information you are requesting? >> this is somebody who will be advising the president of the united states on using force, sending troops to war. it's important that the second tear of defense by something fully vetted. i have significant questions and i want to make sure the american people get to know for s
act. also possible today, debate on the chuck hagel nomination to be defense secretary. live coverage of the senate when they return here on c-span2 and, again, that'll be at 2:15 eastern. the senate can only begin debate on the hagel nomination after it's passed out of the senate armed services committee. they are meeting this afternoon to vote on that nomination. senate democrats decided to move ahead with the vote after republicans threatened a walkout. hagel's nomination could move out of the committee on a party-line vote. democrats hold a 14-12 edge on the senate armed services panel. you can watch that vote live at 2:45 eastern on our companion network, c-span3. earlier today the senate armed services committee heard from a number of military leaders about the potential impact of budget cuts that are set to take effect in march. chief of staff of the army, general ray odierno, was among those testifying today calling the potential effects of she sequester dire. here's what he had to say. >> the fiscal outlook which the u.s. army faces in fiscal year '13 is dire, and to my knowl
's blocking of further consideration of the nomination of chuck hagel to be the next secretary of defense. we'll be back here in chicago as soon as the president arrives. >> good morning, thanks for talking with us. >> how unusual is it to have the president's pick blocked at this stage of the game? guest: it is very unusual. the senator has never filibustered the president's nomination for the defense secretary. the most bizarre thing, i think, is probably the most frustrating for the people watching this, particularly outside of washington, is that you know, former senator hagel is former republican senator, mind you. the reason why it was defeated because the majority leader harry reid switched his vote to no so he could bring the vote back up again after the senate comes back from recease. a lot of republican senators were saying that they did not want this choice filibustered. even if they wanted to vote no on his nomination he at least deserves an up down vote in order to be approved. the republicans decided to use this vote as a way to extract more information from the white house on i
. >> the problem with the president and his policies, or is it with chuck hagel, john brennan, john kerry? >> that's all the president. the president picks the people that he put around him, too. with respect to chuck hagel and brennan, defense and cia, just in the last week their performance in front of the committees that have to confirm them has been pretty poor. that's, you know, not my judgment. that's the judgment, as well, of senators on both sides of the aisle. my guess is if you look at what the president's motives are for picking chuck headachel l-- chu hagel, he wants the republican to be the foil for what he wants to do with the defense department which will do serious damage to the department. it looks to me that the president has made choices in part based on people who won't argue with him. >> we'll have much more of that interview ahead. the former vice president will talk about the use of water boarding and his relationship with former president george w. bush. >>> 24 hours after the bombshell announcement that pope benedict is resigning, the focus now turns to choosing his succes
in the 20 # 1 games. reid accusing republicans of blocking of defense nomination. hagel needs support of five republicans to clear the way for an up or down vote. they are putting national security at risk to delay a vote. president lyndon b. johnson's letter are released today. lbj proposed to # the 21-year-old on their first day in 1934. it took a courtship of 100 letters over ten weeks before he won her over. those are your headlines. roses are red, violates -- violets are blue, dear lori, now back to you. [laughter] >> happy valentine's day, my friend. >> happy valentine's day. >> lbj didn't mess around. >> no, ten weeks. >> worked quickly, good for him. there's a blistering letter cement by big u.s. banks and regulators to the e.u. blasting the new tax on financial transactions hurting investors worldwide, and you warned me, this is big news. very important. >> it's a developing story. we got the letter here, 11 countries in the e.u. are moving to assess a tax on trades around the world meaning stocks and bonds meaning it could hit your 401(k) account and not know it's happening.
. if you talk to mike hagel he'll say this is a problem for us. he can go to china and say stop your spying. we do it too. we don target economic entities. we don't target corporations and not stealing the economic research of dupont or intel. we do what they consider traditional spying. the chinese don't and that's a distinction we make. whether china sees it that way or not is an entirely different question. >> rose: how do they know we make that distinction. >> i think there are set of laws under which nsa operates and those laws make it relatively clear the kinds of targets that you have. but if you think about it, we also don't have the system. if we were to take for example some secrets of you know a new jet liner that airbus is making. we typically don't have a system that works that way. we don't pick winners and loser. >> in enact the government knows a lot of stuff they don't tell companies. if they could communicated better with companies about who is hacking them that would go a long time. >> rose: sometimes the companies don't know. >> yes, of course. that's part of the presi
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